Showing posts with label Discovery. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Discovery. Show all posts

Wednesday, September 13, 2023

Is it possible for a Chinese to be a talk show host (like The Oprah Show) in America? by Kyle Phoenix

Yes, there is a younger clone with a near identical set.

The advantage of partnering with Discovery Channel creates is that it's worldwide, that it's 7 channels---that gives a range of billions if viewers around the world subscribe/tune in. Right now they get paid 30 cents per 8 channels, of about 90-100 worldwide subscribers.

Now at the peak, Oprah was rocking 12 to 15 (upwards of 40+ when averaged by the week) million viewers a day, to multiply that success over multiple shows/formats is going to take time. She's now arguably getting close to I’m sure one of her considered goals: she had on her show a young Chinese talks how host, Chen Lu Yu, pre 2009 Discovery Channel deal approach.

Yu's single show has a viewership of 200 million a week in China, while Oprah was doing 40 million a week including America and international markets.

I literally saw Oprah, Skyping with Yu, get an ambition erection. It is no coincidence that OWN in her and Stedman's minds since 1992 got a boost at seeing this young woman. Gary Zaslav, President of Discovery approached her a couple of years later. Synchronization. Serendipity. Law of Attraction.

Oprah's CEO of OWN until 2025, to really, really, really expand. There are broadcasts of OWN throughout Europe, Canada, South America, India already.

Yu woke up a Mississippian dragon.

Chen?

You in danger, girl.

Sunday, July 8, 2018

Kyle Phoenix Answers: If ratings do not improve, how long is Discovery willing to give Oprah Winfrey's OWN Network before pulling the plug?

It's a resounding success since the deals inception a decade ago. Everyone plus new others have made back their money.
Discovery took out loans of 330$ million against a $500 million expected loan total by 2016. OWN became profitable 2013 so another cash bridge was unnecessary.
Oprah brought in Tyler Perry and his stable of old and new shows exclusively created for OWN with him getting a probable 5% equity stake from Oprahs 50% that reverted back upon his exit next year but the stable of shows are contracted until at least 2020.
OWN has won multiple Emmys and most importantly Harpo was able to become more viable with Discovery absorbing the cost of liquidation in Chicago to move to West Hollywood production building and studio.
Harpo was able to repeat its stable of shows TOWS, Dr. Phil, Nate Berkus, Rachael Ray and Dr. Oz into another point of syndication, which means Discovery used some of that loan to pay its partner, Oprah for shows she outright or partially owns. Then they created at least another 40 shows since inception that may not have all been hits but kept 400 people from Harpo from being laid off as the company got the breather space to downsize.
Then Oprah signed a deal with Sirius XM to rebroadcast new and old shows. She basically took some of her old shows and put them on the radio.

No, read that again.

I was sitting in a car in NYC traffic and turned on the Oprah and Friends station and the REpeat of The Oprah Winfrey Show was makeovers.

I LISTENED to ----"Ooooh, that's a nice color on you. Is that your new hairstyle? That's the best coat for your frame."

That deal was $50million for 4 years.....wait for it, with free ad space for OWN.
We were friggin' IMAGINING the makeover show! Her voice sold us a makeover SHOW!
She'd done approximately $1 billion dollars in valued on air advertising of OWN before it started. But how does that translate?
You make money two ways in cable tv: Ad revenue and subscriber revenue.
So companies paid premium ad rates, as high as a million an ad for cross fertilizing spots on OWN, Oprah magazine, Sirius, Oprah.com......wait how on Oprah.com?
One collection of subscribers. Two affiliate sales. You click through Oprah.com for a Kindle, affiliate tag is cookied to your computer. You buy a Kindle....or anything else, Kindle retail pricing starting at $149 and Harpo got 6%. Amazon sold $200 million worth of Kindles after she picked it as a favorite thing.....and wait for it....you got a special 10% discount for clicking through on Oprah.com.
No, there's more......
Cable subscription rates were increased from a push by Discovery to do so. I don't have cable. But if you do, you're giving Oprah about 15 cents a month. The subscriber rate is $1.50 for the Discovery bundle of 8 channels. So Harpo gets 1/8 of the $1.50 of wait for it 90 million plus subscribers in America.
No, no, there's a smidge more.....all those India , Africa, England, Canada shows, visits and tours? To partner with four of the largest cable distributors in Europe, India, Canada and South America, using her fame/stable of shows as the vanguard to another 100 million subscribers.

But there's more!
All them shows?
Harpo is minimum 25- 50% production partner with. Another 40 shows. Reality shows run about $300,000 to $500,000 an episode, cheaper than scripted at $1-3 million.
But all them Chicago Oprah Show production teams? Moved to these new shows and who picks up the tab for the production, including employee salaries? Discovery and that $330 million loan.
But Tyler is leaving OWN for a new Viacom deal, you say?

But wait Paramount bought by Viacom bought King World.
But wait didn't King World distribute and produce the trifecta of syndication money bloc----TOWS, Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune?
But wait wasn't the only way to keep Oprah from 1986 installments of ownership of her who through the end of her initial 4 year contract, King World cash? But at a certain point King World didn't have straight cash to keep renewing in cash so they paid Oprah to do her show in stock options and cash. When Paramount/Viacom came along both had to negotiate the purchase of King World and then Paramount because Oprah was a majority shareholder from the iterations of conversions.
She owns roughly 2-5% of Viacom.
The Tyler Perry ultimate hook up, huh?
So how to valuation of Discovery, hence OWN. Between loan potential of $500 million and subscriber fees totaling $1billion plus a year per channel, 50% is worth $150-$500 million.
The Harpo kick in was 0.
Harpo is now producing hit shows, highest cable channel for women, Weight Watchers, dozens of shows in network and cable syndication and production, employee stable kept, cross fertilization advertising in magazine, online and in Best Life concerts, worldwide promotion, cost of $70 million for cash buy out of 25%, bringing Discovery interest to 70% plus. Exclusive CEO contract for her through 2025 and rerunning of her stable of shows.
Harpo will probably average $100 million in overall profits per year for the 15-17 years since inception to 2025.
1.7$ - $4 billion overall.
Discovery overall:$17-30 billion based on a platinum grade spokesperson.
Failure?
Where?
On a. $300 million dollar investment that she put in 0 of?
She's made her company leaner and had time to expand its profitability in Weight Watchers stock options----$47 million in, valuation $250-400 million by the end, optioned for high stock price, with overall 10% ownership stake.
Art sale: $140 million.
Magazine: Approximately $150 million split with Hearst every year for the past 18 years, free ad space or back charged to production companies, Discovery, others.
HBO deal. 1 movie in the can. Production deal in place.
Food deal? At least $10 million a year as it slowly expands its SKUs.
The real money game in TV /cable, is long game and ownership.
Prediction, her net worth in 2025 will be between $5-10 billion and most of the billions were made on the strength of her platinum branding and sharing of said brand, The Oprah Winfrey Show being seed money an advertising platform for Oprah to become a brand and brand curator of digital, lifestyle and physical products.

Smile, Kyle
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Tuesday, March 13, 2018

Kyle Phoenix Answers: How much has Oprah Winfrey spent on the Oprah Winfrey Network so far?

That expansiveness is part of what made the deal so attractive to Harpo, a sandbox of it's own to create in, 7 years on the initial agreement, Harpo could walk away at anytime til 2016, have since renewed, a stable of shows created for sale to Discovery and another revenue cycle for Harpo properties like TOWS,Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, Nate Berkus, Rachel Ray after their initial run on other networks, so Harpo gets paid again and again for it's old and new content.

The challenge is the time it takes to grow a network, keeping Harpo as a profitable company to support itself and extend but not overtax the Oprah brand. Harpo got leaner by closing/selling 4 square block campus in Chicago for Discovery messed space in Hollywood, lessening employees, closing film division and re-using content library to create Where Are They Now?, a new show of ok and now updated material on nearly everyone so it's almost naturally able to stay relevant.
Harpo essentially got a 7 year sponsor while it trimmed itself down to a content distribution and brand extender company.
The synergistic offering is then Oprah magazine, radio, film work is part of the loan debt Discovery is paying in that Discovery is buying content, ad space, paying employees, providing space and Harpo then recycles that debt-money into productions that it leases to Discovery to put of channel that increases viewership that allows Discovery to get larger subscriber fees, ad rates and take out loans to pay Harpo...and the cycle continues.

The challenge until became profitable in 2013 was to streamline this whole systems.
 Note: While Jeffrey Jacobs initially owned a 10% stake of Harpo in the beginning the business add ons since then (magazine, radio, new shows, part of Discovery deal that isn't Harpo content pre-2000) and the fact that Harpo and Discovery had to give Tyler Perry a stake percentage to get so much of his content onto the platform, have lessened his stake in overall take ins because the pie size increased with more diversified extensions. It's probably down to 4-6% of Harpo proper now.

So in a roundabout way, Oprah spent very little as half her staff and management expenses were covered by Discovery having the mass to get a $550 million dollar loan to fund the project and she could bill back all of the work Harpo does for 50% recoup while making the company leaner and parlaying the relationship for deal with Weight Watchers, Flatiron book publishing, forming a separate production company with David Oyewelo and Ava Duvernay, Clipboard a tablet content platform company and the rights to piggyback into other continents on Discovery's 8 channels and multiplicity of sub relationships with cable networks thereby extending the brand that tunes in folks to TV shows, channel, magazine etc...another systems loop.


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