Showing posts with label identity. Show all posts
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Thursday, July 10, 2025

Why does it seem like being LGBTQ+ is a personality trait for some people? Why make absolutely everything about LGBTQ+? by Kyle Phoenix

 

There's a system, a measurement created by Vivienne Cass about 50 years ago that essentially has a scale of where one is at in sexuality (non-heterosexuality).

What makes this so interesting and useful is that it helps to codify to people and people like me (teachers-counselors) what we’re seeing in them, where they’re at. I was an LGBT Youth Coordinator so the youth, from 14 to 27, were all over the map in terms of life experience and sexuality/sexual experience. I was able to introduce the map to them and further help them see Identity-Sexuality as a progression.

What the above did was it also allowed me to isolate the differences between Out and Closeted.

Most importantly, what this did was it helped to isolate them being able to evaluate their peers and older men for the stages they were in and why.

When men are extremely Out, I’m talking Grand Marshall of the Gay Parade, they’re essentially a Level 5, Identity Pride. Some people stay there for a really long time because there isn’t much else to their identity to take primacy. We often assume that people are well-rounded or expansive but in truth at least 50% of the population are defined by very narrow criteria within their identity: family, gender roles, biological sex, religion, ethnicity/race, and maybe work/vocation.

So to NOT be heterosexual is a really big thing in about 50% of the Out (all) folk (and it also explains the reticence of the Closeted folk).

Ironically one of the reasons why I was able to be the Youth Coordinator was because I was a Level 6, I had achieved Identity Synthesis in that I’d been out close to 15 years when I started, I’d been in several men’s groups, on TV talking about sexuality, at jobs, in the newspaper—Out, Out, Out, Out, implying to all directly or by inference my sexuality. (Even now when taping my TV show I often think in the middle of some lesson—-Do I have to directly say or explain a connection to this sexuality idea or experience? Do I have to experience-signal or is just discussing this an outing of myself? Does anyone think I would be doing this sexuality topic if I wasn’t one of the rings on the bullseye?)

I can honestly tell you that I often forget about my omnisexuality, unless I’m scoping the male and female (and in NYC, in-between and other) hotties. Unless I’m thinking a passing sexual idea/thought about a person.

I also don't think about race a lot unless I’m thinking about other people and/or teaching My sexuality and ethnicity are sort of not simplistically baked in but more of sections or storage rooms in a big house that is Kyle.

People who are really, really really flamboyantly gay sort of have moved into a house and decorated all of the rooms very gay.

Why they do this varies. Some of it is for the sheer pleasure and comfort of being authentically themselves after years/families/religions of oppression. Also being out acts as a homing device for other men to find you for interest/romance/sex. I noticed over the years that I was confusing folk, men and women, attracting confused folk and then ending up confused myself because I wasn’t directly doing or being Out in ways that would signal who and what I was and interested in. Not from any point of shame or fear but it simply didn’t manifest for me in that way past the first couple of years of coming out at 18–21. I wore the Red Hot & Dance t-shirts, bought Chippendales calendars for my bedroom and went out to night clubs. Then I went off to college at 21, did workshops and seminars on sexuality, wrote articles and fiction stories and by my Senior year was less about my race and sexuality then I was about being Kyle, a writer and eventually a teacher. Then I started working in corporate America at a variety of big companies Citi, MetLife, Goldman Sachs, law firms and then I went back into education at a charter school—-it never occurred to me to be in the closet or to go to a parade.

(I’ve only been to two Gay Parades (one by work-force, I worked for GMHC and -part of the hiring contract was the understanding that we staff would cover one Pride event and the May AIDS Walk. The 2nd Gay Parade, I just happened to be in midtown when it passed by one Sunday so I took pics, particularly of the lone Chinese men with a Jesus Will Burn You sign—-I thought it was kind of courageous and sweet to be in his checkered shirt and chinos just protesting away—-in the center of thousands of oppositional New Yorkers in the street and on the sidewalks.)

I generally don't go to parades because I don't like excessive heat or loud noises/crowds—-unless I’m really planning on it—-a Prince concert, a Janet Jackson concert, etc..

So as a rather staid Alpha I have to remember to have a pin or a ring or a necklace with a rainbow because part of Level 6 is you’re unconscious to both gay and not gay folk, you’re not seeking attention about your sexuality. I’m no prude nor secretive, you can literally type my name into the internet and books, videos, my TV show will appear and there are plenty of gay topics abounding in all of those mediums. So I’m like so Out that I don't even think of Out and Closeted unless I’m talking to or about someone Closeted.

Perhaps that’s what Level 5 is—-definitely displaying that you’re no longer in the Closet?

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That Vivienne Cass system is really very interesting, Kyle. Over the years, experimenting with my sexuality and gradually moving through the sexual orientation spectrum, I came to realise only late last year that “yes, I am probably gay”…although not fully gay, more like homoflexible gay. And I believe that I am at stage 4 now, at the Acceptance stage, with a few toes dipped lightly in stage 5. That sort of aligns with the “Out/Not Out” flowchart you also displayed. I am not out to the world in general, but am out to a few very trusted people who are very accepting of me. Not out to my wife as she is pretty homophobic at the best of times, and not empathic towards anyone not displaying what she considers as “normality”, and we are like best friends but not really romantically or sexually involved. However, I do feel that I have wanted to be out to a few people in recent times, and the truth be told, I believe that one day in the future, when my daughter is grown up and both my wife and I reach the natural conclusion that life apart would be more fulfilling for us, we will separate amicably and after some introspection and “me time”, I will end up coming out fully and then start dating with the aim of finding a compatible man for a life partner/husband.

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Sunday, April 23, 2023

Why would not all homosexual men and women want to seek reparative therapy if for no other reason to live an easier life? by Kyle Phoenix

I think all humans articulate our self preservation sense also as not just a right to live but also to be good and validated by the tribe around us, even if that thing is oppositional.

LGBTQ people feel an intrinsic sense of value and worth as humans but also have enough similarities with others to ignore the decree of self as wrong. It is seen internally as wrong compared to ideologies but not nature which is why western civilization which worships Scientism, not God (yes, fundamentalists are right) is constantly gripped in trying to find a biological answer to being LGBTQ. Its trying to get its "godhead" to legitimize sexuality differences because western ontology is built on measurement and legal systems rather than humanistic experience.

The further question then becomes what would be a better life? Once you start muffin diving or pole playing, you still have to pay the cell phone bill. Yes, therapy is often helpful to manage and integrate life healthily but if you intrinsically feel you're right and valid, you would not think it could be fixed. While I think once the cat is out the bag, its a scratch and itch for life, I think you can opt for all the mass population social rights and privileges that are easier to access as a heterosexual.

That desire, which i think is valid and true, I'm thinking about people who are not classically attractive or disabled or have a large family inheritance at stake. There might be good competing reasons that suggest you should seek to alter what doesn't work for you. Will it work? Who knows? I'm still confused by that Chrisley guy on TLC because the constant joke is we're all thinking the same thing, right? But say he's being disingenuous about aspects of his core identity because he loves his wife and wants a different life----go for it. I draw the line at coercion or oppression but I know plenty of past SUNY schoolmates living in the closet using religion, family, therapy to repair what they see as error.

I think spiritually they are at a crux point. Your 0-4s are you new souls, often from tight knit communities, large families. 4 is when you venture to the Big City which is generally full of you popping 6-8s (9-10s generally migrate back to the country). But if you're a 4/5 you're torn between comfort and becoming the wild, the unknown, the reviled. Much of humanity demands conformity, sameness, it must be very upsetting to feel pulled from the inside in two different directions.

I think a lot of our social discords has to do with not expressly identifying these levels and the lives they suggest.

Ainslie MacLeod details out this all in The Instruction, grew book to see where one is at and understand others. The deep concern over sexuality is very lower level, in the hetero and the not hetero, it's one of the lesser human experience values. So when folk are waving flags, activism based on sexuality, keeping up on the scientific research, you got some 3-6s.

One spiritually outgrows a deep interest, now I'm wholesale committed to human rights, the right for you to disagree or go into such psychic crunching therapy. Knock yourself out, its literally your life to splash these paints onto.

People in this thread will go all willy milly on this----watch, and you'll be able to see younger spirits trying to assert selfhood, identity, power, controls.

Kids.
Meh......


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Thursday, November 1, 2018

TKPS, Episode # 409 (11/01/18)- The Kyle Phoenix Show


TKPS, Episode # 409 (11/01/18)- The Kyle Phoenix Show
"I Want My Sex Back" Detransitioned Transgender People Who Regretted Changing Sex 

I Want My Sex Back. Detransitioned Transgender People Who Regretted Changing Sex

Detransitioned transgender people who regretted changing sex speak out. Billy, Rene and Walt were born male, but they all felt uncomfortable with their sex. So they underwent sex reassignment surgery, believing it would end their distressing condition, which is known as gender dysphoria – feeling uncomfortable with your birth sex. However, becoming female only brought problems, disappointment and regret.

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Thursday, August 16, 2018

Kyle Phoenix Answers: How do you explain why the admiration of divas is common among gay males?




Divas tend to be popular, centers of attention, witty, appreciated AND the focus of sexual attention from men.
Most MSM move through life with a choice---come out or not, be out or not. Not being out gives a balancing act of identity power and weakness. One gets to affinity with manhood, with masculine power and be a Man. Or one can be out and get demoted from Man to Male (cocksucker, fucked in the butt) a state of non-Manhood, legally, morally and socially lacking in trust, fidelity, strength and even lesser patriarchal power. Depending on the situation, nearly as bad as being a .....woman, female.
But the Diva is a Woman. A female who has transcended her original oppressive state and commands attention and most important in a patriarchal society, the desirous attention of Men.
See, gay, bi, etc males while available to other males are not guaranteed males. Patriarchy in its arrogant blindness, half assures, creates the delusion within men that all women are available, rejectable or out of bounds to his penis (elderly women and children under 12). Note the option to reject lies in the delusional perspective of the man.
Now imagine you're raised in patriarchy as a male and therefore either closeted to maintain manhood social power or out and demoted but still above women. But the delusional bubble gets rudely popped. Most men do not view you with the sexual interest you want them too. How to access attention from that which you desire, where at least 80% reject you?
Women.
But as the Other.
The Diva is also the Other because she is a different kind of woman.
Other aligns to Other in fantasy and devotion. Some of it is ..."if only I could be that kind of Other....I'd regain lost social power.".
Some of it is "if I was that then men would/could openly want me."
Some of it is appreciation of talent, spectacle and fantasy.
Some of it is envy.
People rarely think about, by people I mean hetero men (patriarchial delusional) and women (beleaguered by men constantly hitting on them since they were children) , what it must be like to be most women's eunuch neuter safe space and disregarded as less than by other men, who you paradoxically find superficially attractive.
You're left feeling like you're shopping in the remainder bin of Maybe, Kinda, Sorta males who might be closeted enough to be accessors of Manhood Masculine Man-ness.
Ironically, its like the desire for Masculine Men is countered by the Hyper Feminine in the Diva.
Yeah, western ontology and axiology fucks up sexuality internally and from social projection.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018

Kyle Phoenix Answers: How is it that, in general, members of the LGBT community accumulate wealth and dominate the more well-to-do areas?

How is it that, in general, members of the LGBT community accumulate wealth and dominate the more well-to-do areas?




LGBT people who educate well or enter lucrative fields like sales, entrepreneurship, finance, real estate , creative arts, tend to do better because in higher end fields:

1. Travel is necessary. One, we, they can drop and go easier than a married sibling or even a friend with family responsibilities .

2. The social, political, religious and potential family ostracism tends to make you more independent. In many ways, evidenced by the Housewives of Dumblandia and midlife crises', family can be more impediment to identity than support. Straight people spend a lot of Time consulting a lot of invisible folk in their head about their own non harmful thoughts. Once you've polished a few poles or mowed a few bushes you tend to learn how to measure for yourself what you'll like.


3. LGBT folk learn to take risks because your existence can feel like one. So you check out stuff, fringe stuff that people around you might disapprove of. Success is based on a small group of people pulling away from the pack for space to assess how to proceed. Heterosexuals tend to glom together and fill in thinking rather than innovate and create----a pageant is the closest thing to a drag show, and pageants are creepy. That creative practice makes one stand out in business settings as well.

4. Having played closet games, da gays are human behavioral experts. I had to learn to shut my mouth in undergrad. I was infamous for meeting guys and girls and announcing as I walked away. "Gay. Lesbian.". Was I right 100% of the time? Yes, I was but it wasn't nice to announce it. I got to undergrad at 21, I'd been a cage dancer, done.......stuff throughout Manhattan, done stuff in nightclubs, sex clubs, met all manner of folk. Curiously never did drugs or alcohol. I was at Sexuality Mastery level when I hit Buffalo. But that social advancement gives me....insights into folks and situations.

5. Sexual advancement. Da sexuality straight line-people get experience from experts or massive quantities. Da 
sexuality squiggles get experience with every encounter and there's no social stigma....because you're already stigmatized. So you have more attention to focus because sex isn't so remarkable. Once you cross the Amazon....that you know you're into Amazons, the Hudson ain't no challenge.

6. The ostracized learn to accept others. By accepting others you make impacts and friends that you don't even know. Before the books and TV show, guys and girls would corner me and ask for counseling, thank me, tell me their secrets. I know more shit about folks I 
don't  know that well by I'm also like a jellybean on the Titanic, no one will find your secrets out from me. Maybe your secrets are the jellybean and I'm the Titanic? Wait, wait, I don't want to be fat. OK, I'm the adorable jellybean. There is no Titanic. I'll keep your secrets.

7. Very little shocks us. A friend in college, I was an RA, once told me he used to put frozen hot dogs up his butt as a child to simulate penetration and imagined dead relatives watching him now get banged out lovely by guys ----like surrounding the bed, he couldn't focus during sex.

Another who did an interior design job on his dorm room that that reminded one of well...Nate Berkus denied being gay for a year. We walked into a gay bar in Buffalo a year and a half later, that mofo was on top of the speakers in a purple thong shaking his moneymaker. During my hour long peals of laughter he tearfully begged we not out him. I told him his girlfriend who looked like a ripped Sarah Connor would spill the beans....after she came out. A lot of coupled secrets. Twofers.

More female coworkers who are strictly dickly , two months into friendships share their lesbionic tryst info.

Such confidences gain you allies far and wide.. The Gay Mafia is real....and bitchy.

8. Excluding those young'uns we do/pay for their go go dancing body-oddie , we generally ain't got no kids for a good 20-30 years. A roommate and i to prove a point or on a dare once went out every night for a week to new clubs----I 
don't  know what the bet was but my boss at Dreyfus told me more toothpaste when one stumbles in soused on a Wednesday. Luckily it was a temp assignment.

Straight boys and girls get saddled with bastards IN high school sometimes! GTFOH!!!!! You know what I got from working at a department store in high school---a FICO score, credit line, two credit cards and a store card. You know what some of classmates got? The naming rights of their first bastard.
Children either in the middle of a dance floor or in your life......slow you down. Before 30. You need your twenties....for drinking challenges and 80hr work weeks and college and to find out if it's all about the bass when you and two friends make an Eiffel Tower.

Go to any poor neighbor. 
Stand still. 
In ten minutes, you'll see some disheveled child, a bedraggled parent and polyester worn by all.

9. You work harder because LGBT sex at your job is much hotter than straight sex. Trust me. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

10. If we play our cards right we suss out good partners, older richer partners, dying parents and sweetheart business and real estate deals. Why and how? All that quiet, lazing in the tub easing sore sex muscles and hangovers in a quiet childless house gives us time to read, recruit and reconnoiter while straights are trying to figure out how to make their family annihilation happen before the holidays.

No LGBT mass family annihilations, ijs.
Happier folk.


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